Friday, February 24, 2012

More gun tragedies

A nine year old faces possible jail time after a .45-caliber gun that he brought from his mother's house accidentally fired and wounded a classmate.
Crying and wearing an orange jail jumpsuit, a frightened 9-year-old boy accused of accidentally shooting a classmate sat before a judge in juvenile court Thursday as his father gently rubbed his back.

The scene — coming a day after police said the boy accidently shot a fellow third-grader — raised questions that will be played out in the legal system: Did he know what he did was wrong? And is anyone else responsible?
The father is quoted as saying, "I just want everyone to know that my kid made a mistake. It was a terrible mistake;" however, no one is quoted about the abject stupidity of leaving a gun lying around where a nine year old could access it.

Cdogzilla links to a story about a pastor's 20 year old daughter who was mortally wounded in her father's church when her fiancée was showing another church member his gun.
The Pinellas County Sheriff's Office says 20-year-old Hannah Kelley was pronounced dead at about 10:20 a.m. Saturday at Bayfront Medical Center. An autopsy is pending.

Kelley had been hospitalized since Feb. 12, when she was struck in the head by a bullet at Grace Connection Church in St. Petersburg, where her father Tim Kelley is pastor.

Investigators have said Moises Zambrana was showing his gun in a small closet to another church member interested in buying a firearm. The St. Petersburg Times reports that the other church member, Dustin Bueller, was Hannah Kelley's fiancée.
Closer to home, a 102 year old Greensboro man shot his 84 year old wife before turning the gun on himself.

Just another average week of gun-related mayhem.

10 comments:

Cdog Zilla said...

I started doing research for blog post on firearms and whether or not people are any safer after buying one for safety and had to take a break because it was quite literally too depressing to slog through all the stories of accidental shootings, suicides, murders, etc. Every once in a blue moon you can find a story where someone defended himself, or his property, with firearm. There was one instance of this in NC recently, but the overwhelming number of stories were sad and tragic.

Thanks for the link, by the way.

Ken said...

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july022008/marine_shooting_7-2-08.php

http://futurewire.blogspot.com/2004/12/home-invasions-us-vs-uk.html

The three times I stopped problems with my firearms at my home do not show in any statistics. No shots fired, no one injured. They changed their plans and left quickly.

Ken said...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3613417/An-Englishmans-home-is-his-dungeon.html

Dave Ribar said...

Ken:

There is a certain "broken record" quality to your posts.

The U.K. has one of the highest crime rates in Europe. Robberies, assaults, home invasions, and several other crimes are higher there than in the U.S.

At the same time, the murder rate in the U.S. is more than four times higher than in the U.K. (and the rape rate is more than 50 percent higher).

In 2009, more people in the U.S. were killed accidentally or with undetermined intent by firearms than all of the people murdered in the U.K.

Ken said...

There is a certain "broken record" quality to your posts.
The same is absolutely true of yours.
Why are those rates higher in Britain? Are you aware that those rates rose as private firearm ownership declined?

Ken said...

I too deplore the gun tragedies you posted. No member of my family has suffered such a tragedy. But three of my relatives have died in three separate incidents at the hands of drunken drivers. So we prohibit beverage alcohol? We tried that, right?
Here is a well-researched, carefully footnoted post on the subject of firearms.
http://davekopel.org/2a/LawRev/LawyersGunsBurglars.htm

Ken said...

"In 2009, more people in the U.S. were killed accidentally or with undetermined intent by firearms than all of the people murdered in the U.K."
Really? If some one else posted that, it would be pointed out as a silly and invalid use of statistics. The US population is over 310 million, the UK population is about 1/5 that of the USA- just 20%. A real comparison to be sure.

Ken said...

http://triadwatch.blogspot.com/2012/02/north-carolina-concealed-carry-permit.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TriadWatch+%28TRIAD+WATCH%29

Dave Ribar said...

Ken:

If rates of gun ownership are responsible for preventing home invasions (your argument for the U.K.), why have these crimes decreased in the U.S. as the percentages of households and people with guns have decreased?

Ken said...

I must admit that I was previously unaware that gun ownership is declining as a percentage of households who own a firearm. Am not yet sure I can trust this data. But for the moment, let's accept it. Among my acquaintances, the percentage of gun ownership is rising. Given that small sample, it is not necessarily applicable to the entire population. Someone is buying lots of firearms as sales have increased since 2008. In the UK, it is virtually certain that no household has a firearm ready to be used against intruders. In the USA, it is rather frequent for the media to report of firearms being used to deter those with criminal intent. So criminals do know that it is possible in the USA to encounter armed resistance from intended victims. And many of those incidents do not make the news. Many are not reported to law enforcement. I have not officially reported any of my experiences since I did not want the hassle of having my house searched or being falsely accused by those I encountered- such as might have happened with the 3 with drawn knives. It would have been just my word against theirs.