Monday, March 22, 2010

Republicans show their stuff

So, House Republicans got the "up or down" insurance reform vote that they asked for. Did it make a difference? Of course not. The issue was never the type of vote (Republicans had used deeming and reconciliation for their own legislation). And as shown last night, adopting an up or down vote didn't bring a single Republican supporter of the legislation.

It also wasn't the contents of the legislation, which largely follows Republican proposals from the 1990s when they again wanted to "slow down and start all over." The legislation also includes some 200 Republican-proposed amendments.

Certainly, if the contents mattered, Republicans would have supported the follow-on legislation, H.R. 4872 which will eliminate some of the deals cut in the broader health care legislation and reduce the deficit by a further $25 billion over the next decade. Republicans who all voted against the reconciliation bill can fairly be tagged with voting in favor of the "conhusker kickback," "gator aid," and the other provisions that they bloviated against.

Republicans fulminated against the sausage-making aspects of the legislative process. Yet Republicans had earlier insisted that the legislation be written in the Congress and not developed by the White House (as had been the case with the Clinton era proposals). Did it make a difference?

In the end, none of the accommodations mattered. All the Party of No (or in the case of its red-faced minority leader, "hell no") could muster was ugliness with catcalls of n****r, f****t, totaltarian, communist and baby killer.

5 comments:

pino said...

All the Party of No (or in the case of its red-faced minority leader, "hell no") could muster was ugliness with catcalls of n****r, f****t, totaltarian, communist and baby killer.

You are showing your bias Dave.

True it was a Republican that yelled out baby killer; you can argue delivery but not content. Stupak sold his sould to remain in power on this one.

But the other incidents were independent of the Republican party. They were from members of the Tea Party movement; and only a very very few. The leadership immediately denounced the comments and rightly said that there is no place for such wickedness.

If you are going to blame a group, blame a group. But make sure you get the right one.

Dave Ribar said...

So, Rep. Devin Nunes didn't bloviate,

Mr. Speaker, this debate is not about the uninsured; it’s about socialized medicine. Today we are turning back the clock. For most of the 20th century, people fled the ghosts of communist dictators, and now you are bringing the ghosts back into this Chamber. With passage of this bill, they will haunt Americans for generations.

Your multitrillion dollar health care bill continues the Soviets’ failed Soviet socialistic experiment. It gives the Federal Government absolute control over health care in America.

My friends, that is what this debate is really about. Today, Democrats in this House will finally lay the cornerstone of their socialist utopia on the backs of the American people.

Say "no" to socialism. Say "no" to totalitarianism.


Page H1866 of the Congressional Record must have gotten it wrong.

pino said...

Page H1866 of the Congressional Record must have gotten it wrong.

Dave, I am responding to your claims that the Republican party issued catcalls of N and F. They didn't. I ceded to the prosecution that the Repubs DID utter "Baby Killer".

Nunes has it wrong, it's not Socialism. We know that to be Government ownership of production. What we have here is Economic Fascism; Private ownership of production but government control.

Serious. You think what we are seeing is consistent with what has been the uniquely American trait of dynamism?

eric said...

And here is Nunes making excuses for the racist and homophobic slurs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT6PNv2GhY4

Whether those making the slurs are themselves official representatives of the GOP is not the point. Official representatives of the GOP are unquestionably stoking, justifying, and seeking to benefit from the misplaced anger of the tea partiers. It is disingenuous for them to pretend they bear no responsibility for the ugliest expressions of that anger -- including racist & homophobic slurs, wanton acts of vandalism, and grotesque threats of personal violence.

Dave Ribar said...

Eric:

Thanks for pointing this out.